5 Leadership Questions: A Leadership Podcast Featuring Interviews With Carey Nieuwhof, Craig Groeschel, Matt Chandler, Jen Wi

In this episode of the 5 Leadership Questions podcast, Todd Adkins and Daniel Im are joined by Jonathan Pokluda, lead pastor of Harris Creek, former leader of the Porch, and author of Welcome to Adulting. During their conversation, they discuss Jonathan's transition from The Porch to Harris Creek and how our phones are affecting our lives. BEST QUOTES "The whole context of leading has changed for me from leading a staff of 150 to leading a staff of 15." "I think you are leading well when people are making fun of you for saying your values so much." "What do we need to keep doing? What do we need to start doing? What do we need to stop doing?" "We don't talk about people, we talk to people." "What makes you love God more?" "It was your weakness that got you in ministry, but you think your giftedness will keep you there." "The idea of deep meditation is something that's always been asked of Christians, but right now even the secular world is catching on." "We are looking at our phone thousands of times a